Doug and J.R. can’t seem to get enough of the month of October. Doug is turning 40 in a few weeks and they talk about what it looks like to live well the second half of life. They also have a conversation around a book by Gary McIntosh on church size and leadership struggles/opportunities. Our guest this week comes from Johannesburg, South Africa, and Rev. Tom Smith takes us through the journey of success-burnout-healing-resending. This is a two part conversation, so enjoy part one as you dive into our conversation.
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