S3E05: Second Order Change

Some episodes feature interesting guests, some dig into powerful tools for a leader.

In this episode, we discuss Second Order Change. It is a powerful tool a leader can use to break stuck, recurring patterns in yourself, your relationships and your organization.

I first learned it through two books: Change: Principles of Problem Formation and Problem Resolution and Brief Therapy with Intimidating Cases.


In this episode, my producer Brendan Reed and I chat through what it is and share some examples of how it can work.