Has the Church become an “Enemy-Making Machine”? David Fitch on Freedom from a Faith that Divides.


David Fitch joins the Betwixt Podcast to talk about the dangers of ideology when uprooted from practice.

We find ourselves in a precarious and liminal time. And many of us grieve our angry culture that seems obsessed with antagonism. In his book the Church of Us vs Them, Fitch contends that the Church has been swept up in this Us-vs-them mentality that has turned us into an ‘enemy-making machine. 

“Has the Church become an “enemy-making machine”? David Fitch joins the Betwixt Podcast to explore the Church of Us vs Them and how to find freedom from a faith that divides.”

This episode explores how we got here and how we can free ourselves from a faith that feeds on division. And because this episode is about handling antagonisms, I take the opportunity to throw Fitch a few hand grenade questions! So stay tuned and see how he handles them!

“When we extract belief out everyday practice in our lives, it turns into a banner–an ideological cause that we rally people around. And we lose sight of how God is transforming our lives as a witness of the kingdom before the world. – David Fitch”

Dr. David Fitch is the B. R. Lindner Chair of Evangelical Theology at Northern Seminary in Chicago. He is also the founding pastor of Life on the Vine Christian Community–a missional church in the Northwest Suburbs of Chicago. You may know Fitch as a leading voice in conversations about culture and missiology. You can follow him on twitter and listen to his podcast Theology on Mission.

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